Če ne smrtna, potem vsaj dosmrtna
- Ustvarjalec teme Davidoff
- Začetni datum
Če se v USofA pri takemu vzpostavi sum, da je bilo dejanje naklepno in sorry, en 15letnik lahko čisto dobro presodi, kaj je prav in kaj ne, se mu sodi kot odraslemu. In tam bi verjetno dobil dosmrtno... Kar v končni fazi tudi podpiram. Ne pa da mu pri 25 letih spet sodijo zaradi drugega zločina... Samo še vprašanje časa je, kdaj bo naslednjega pospravil.
Do letos so precej hitro mladoletniku dali life (with or without parole):
Until June 25, 2012, even as an automatic sentence, life without parole was allowed for offenders under 18, but was heavily restricted- any life without parole sentence, automatic or eventual, could only be used in juvenile cases where a homicide had taken place- and in those cases, it was usually a first degree murder case, generally where the felony murder rule had to apply. In many jurisdictions that still allowed it then, it was only used if the juvenile had committed first-degree murder and also had aggravating circumstances present, such as a planned rape and murder of a minor or the murder of a law enforcement officer. However, on June 25, 2012, the U.S. Supreme Court banned its automatic use entirely in juvenile cases (for anyone under 18), because it violated the Eighth Amendment's prohibition of cruel and unusual punishment. The Court said it could still be used, just not as an automatic (statutory) sentence- only in severe cases of intentional homicide and only once the judge had weighed mitigating factors and other factors.
Ob sojenju kot odraslemu mu nekaj desetletij ne bi ušlo. Ob možnosti predčasnega pogojnega izpusta. Kakšna varianta twentyfive to life with posibility of parole after 10.... Ampak, bottom line je, da ga ne bi poslali v prevzgojni zavod ob storjenem takem zločinu kot ga je v prvem postu omenjeni storil.
Until June 25, 2012, even as an automatic sentence, life without parole was allowed for offenders under 18, but was heavily restricted- any life without parole sentence, automatic or eventual, could only be used in juvenile cases where a homicide had taken place- and in those cases, it was usually a first degree murder case, generally where the felony murder rule had to apply. In many jurisdictions that still allowed it then, it was only used if the juvenile had committed first-degree murder and also had aggravating circumstances present, such as a planned rape and murder of a minor or the murder of a law enforcement officer. However, on June 25, 2012, the U.S. Supreme Court banned its automatic use entirely in juvenile cases (for anyone under 18), because it violated the Eighth Amendment's prohibition of cruel and unusual punishment. The Court said it could still be used, just not as an automatic (statutory) sentence- only in severe cases of intentional homicide and only once the judge had weighed mitigating factors and other factors.
Ob sojenju kot odraslemu mu nekaj desetletij ne bi ušlo. Ob možnosti predčasnega pogojnega izpusta. Kakšna varianta twentyfive to life with posibility of parole after 10.... Ampak, bottom line je, da ga ne bi poslali v prevzgojni zavod ob storjenem takem zločinu kot ga je v prvem postu omenjeni storil.
Nazadnje urejeno:
Citat:
Uporabnik noker pravi:
Torej ?? A mogoče ni razumnih ljudi na Alterju ...
Še tretjič sprašujem, kaj bi bila najboljša možnost za dani primer?
No, sicer pa vem, najlažje je bit pameten, trdit nekaj, ko pa je treba razmislit, kaj in kako, pa ...system down.
Moj post lahko smatrate kot retorično vprašanje.
Citat:
Uporabnik noker pravi:
Citat:
Uporabnik noker pravi:
Torej ?? A mogoče ni razumnih ljudi na Alterju ...
Še tretjič sprašujem, kaj bi bila najboljša možnost za dani primer?
No, sicer pa vem, najlažje je bit pameten, trdit nekaj, ko pa je treba razmislit, kaj in kako, pa ...system down.
Moj post lahko smatrate kot retorično vprašanje.
Po mojem mnenju bi moral pri drugem umoru brez nadaljnjega dobiti max kazen brez možnosti pomilostitve. Pri nas je to "samo" 30 let... Kakšna priznanja, kesanja, dogovori... Ne mi rečt, da se je spotaknil in padel na nož šestkrat, nož si imel pa v roki zato, da bi si odrezal kos kruha..
Tak stric bo ziher še v zaporu koga štihnil, pa se mu potem da še 30 na zaključeno kazen (brez vštevanja v prejšnjo, ker drugače ni nič) in je v čuzi do konca naravnega življenja, če ga prej kdo drug ne štihne.
Kaj ti to pomaga, če ima proste izhode in nobenih hudih obveznosti? Narediti podobno komuni. Če hočeš imeti hrano, jo bo treba pridelati, če boš želel mleko, boš moral pomolzti kravo, kasneje pa za njo še počistiti in nahraniti.
Ko se vleže v posteljo mora biti na smrt utrujen, ne pa da ima energijo bluziti in delati pizdarije katere mu še psihopati zavidajo.
Ko se vleže v posteljo mora biti na smrt utrujen, ne pa da ima energijo bluziti in delati pizdarije katere mu še psihopati zavidajo.
Glavno, da so v Italiji obsodili in zaprli srbskega pilota, ki je pod ukazom sestrelil helikopter unproforja ali česa že.
Kaj se sedaj jokaš, imeli so vse, moč, če niso bili sposobni osvojiti čim več ozemlja, so pač luzerji! Žal, so nam zelo podobni, oboji zgubljamo zemljo!
