Je treba Trumpu že čestitat?

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Uporabnik Accord pravi:
Niso si demokrati in republikanci tako različni, kot pri nas levi desni. Problem je Killary in lobiji za njo.
pri nas so levi in desni različni?
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dijo_porko

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Problem je, ker je ena oseba lazniva pras*ica, druga pa zmesan populist. Pri prvi je jasno, kaksno zunanjo politiko bo furala, pri drugi pa se ni cisto jasno, ne vem kaksen vpliv imajo lobiji nanj. V vsakem primeru pa bo eden od njiju odsel na smetisce zgodovine kot porazenec volitev, drugi pa kot eden, ki je zmesal veliko dreka (moje mnenje).
 

bugmenot3

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Pri prvi je jasno, kaksno zunanjo politiko bo furala, pri drugem pa se ni cisto jasno kaksen vpliv imajo lobiji nanj.
Torej, nekaterim ni jasno kakšen vpliv ima Donald Trump nase. Težko vprašanje.

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msenjur

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jap...

vsi ki bi si dejansko želeli končati vojne in zapreti guantanamo so bili že zdavnaj utišani...

Itak je res, da v ZDA vodijo politiko lobijo, predsednik mora potem samo najti argumente za javnost da jih prepriča v neko stvar. skratka velika igra, žrtve so pa ljudje, živali in okolje. Uni iz lobijev se pa režijo v tistih zofah s cigarami in konjakom v rokah v tistih idiličnih vikend vilah nekje v naravi. Še največja žalost je pa, da to v USA sploh ni skrivnost - kdor ti financira kampanijo, tistemu boš najprej naredil velike usluge...
 

Pac_Man

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Morda je samo moja hobi preganjavica, ampak Anonymous Official/AnonymousWorldvoce youtube kanal je verjetno ruska propagandna operacija, zagotovo pa ni uradni youtube kanal skupine Anonymous.

Ustanovljen je bil šele januarja 2012

https://www.youtube.com/user/AnonymousWorldvoce/about

medtem, ko ima skupina precej daljšo zgodovino in zanimive angažmaje, v nasprotju s propagando kanala.

https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Anonymous_%28group%29

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Anonymous first became associated with hacktivism in 2008 following a series of actions against the Church of Scientology known as Project Chanology. On January 15, 2008, the gossip blog Gawker posted a video in which celebrity Scientologist Tom Cruise praised the religion;[42] and the Church responded with a cease-and-desist letter for violation of copyright.[43] 4chan users organized a raid against the Church in retaliation, prank-calling its hotline, sending black faxes designed to waste ink cartridges, and launching DDoS attacks against its websites.[44][45][46]

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In September 2010, however, Anons became aware of Aiplex Software, an Indian software company that contracted with film studios to launch DDoS attacks on websites used by copyright infringers, such as The Pirate Bay.[61][60] Coordinating through IRC, Anons launched a DDoS attack on September 17 that shut down Aiplex's website for a day. Primarily using LOIC, the group then targeted the Recording Industry Association of America (RIAA) and the Motion Picture Association of America (MPAA), successfully bringing down both sites.[62] On September 19, future LulzSec member Mustafa Al-Bassam (known as "Tflow") and other Anons hacked the website of Copyright Alliance, an anti-infringement group, and posted the name of the operation: "Payback Is A Bitch," or "Operation Payback" for short.[63]
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Operation Payback's targets rapidly expanded to include the British law firm ACS:Law,[66] the Australian Federation Against Copyright Theft,[67] the British nightclub Ministry of Sound,[68] the Spanish copyright society Sociedad General de Autores y Editores,[69] the U.S. Copyright Office,[70] and the website of Gene Simmons of Kiss.[71] By October 7, 2010, total downtime for all websites attacked during Operation Payback was 537.55 hours.[71]

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In November 2010, the organization WikiLeaks began releasing hundreds of thousands of leaked U.S. diplomatic cables. In the face of legal threats against the organization by the U.S. government, Amazon.com booted WikiLeaks from its servers, and PayPal, MasterCard, and Visa cut off service to the organization.[72] Operation Payback then expanded to include "Operation Avenge Assange", and Anons issued a press release declaring PayPal a target.[73] Launching DDoS attacks with the LOIC, Anons quickly brought down the websites of the PayPal blog; PostFinance, a Swiss financial company denying service to WikiLeaks; EveryDNS, a web-hosting company that had also denied service; and the website of U.S. Senator Joe Lieberman, who had supported the push to cut off services.[74]

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In the years following Operation Payback, targets of Anonymous protests, hacks, and DDoS attacks continued to diversify. Beginning in January 2011, Anons took a number of actions known initially as Operation Tunisia in support of Arab Spring movements. Tflow created a script that Tunisians could use to protect their web browsers from government surveillance, while fellow future LulzSec member Hector Xavier Monsegur (alias "Sabu") and others allegedly hijacked servers from a London web-hosting company to launch a DDoS attack on Tunisian government websites, taking them offline. Sabu also used a Tunisian volunteer's computer to hack the website of Prime Minister Mohamed Ghannouchi, replacing it with a message from Anonymous.[83] Anons also helped Tunisian dissidents share videos online about the uprising.[84] In Operation Egypt, Anons collaborated with the activist group Telecomix to help dissidents access government-censored websites.[84] Sabu and Topiary went on to participate in attacks on government websites in Bahrain, Egypt, Libya, Jordan, and Zimbabwe.[85]

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Several attacks by Anons have targeted organizations accused of homophobia. In February 2011, an open letter was published on AnonNews.org threatening the Westboro Baptist Church, an organization based in Kansas in the U.S. known for picketing funerals with signs reading "God Hates Fags".[90] During a live radio current affairs program in which Topiary debated church member Shirley Phelps-Roper, Anons hacked one of the organization's websites.[91] After the church announced its intentions in December 2012 to picket the funerals of the Sandy Hook Elementary School shooting victims, Anons published the names, phone numbers, and e-mail and home addresses of church members and brought down GodHatesFags.com with a DDoS attack.[92] Hacktivists also circulated petitions to have the church's tax-exempt status investigated.[93] In August 2012, Anons hacked the site of Ugandan Prime Minister Amama Mbabazi in retaliation for the Parliament of Uganda's consideration of an anti-homosexuality law permitting capital punishment.[94]


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#OpOk

Operation Oklahoma was a Mutual Aid effort responding to the 2013 flash floods and wind storms in the United States.

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Shooting of Tamir Rice

On November 24, 2014, Anonymous shut down the Cleveland city website and posted a video after Tamir Rice, a twelve-year-old boy armed only with a BB gun, was shot to death by a police officer in a Cleveland park.[121] Anonymous also used BeenVerified to uncover phone number and address of a policeman involved in the shooting.[122]


Charlie Hebdo shootings

In January 2015, Anonymous released a video and a statement via Twitter condemning the attack on Charlie Hebdo, in which 12 people, including eight journalists, were fatally shot. The video, claiming that it is "a message for al-Qaeda, the Islamic State and other terrorists," was uploaded to the group's Belgian account.[123] The announcement stated that "We, Anonymous around the world, have decided to declare war on you, the terrorists" and promises to avenge the killings by "shut[ting] down your accounts on all social networks."[124] On January 12, they brought down a website that was suspected to belong to one of these groups.[125] Critics of the action warned that taking down extremists' websites would make them harder to monitor.[126]

Anti-Islamic "Reclaim Australia" rally

Anonymous opposed Anti-Islamic Reclaim Australia rallies and described it as "an extreme right-wing group inciting religious hatred." It also promised to organize counter-rallies on April 4, 2015.[127]

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Operation KKK

On 28 October 2015, Anonymous announced that it would reveal the names of up to 1,000 members of the Ku Klux Klan and other affiliated groups, stating in a press release, "You are terrorists that hide your identities beneath sheets and infiltrate society on every level. The privacy of the Ku Klux Klan no longer exists in cyberspace."[129] On November 2, a list of 57 phone numbers and 23 email addresses (that allegedly belong to KKK members) was reportedly published and received media attention.[130] However, a tweet from the "@Operation_KKK" Twitter account the same day denied it had released that information: "#ICYMI #OpKKK was in no way involved with today's release of information that incorrectly outed several politicians." [131][132][133] The group stated it plans to reveal the names on November 5.

//čisto mešanje dreka

#OpSaudi

Since 2013, Saudi Arabian hacktivists have been targeting government websites protesting the actions of the regime.[134] These actions have seen attacks supported by the possibly Iranian backed Yemen Cyber Army.[135]
#OpISIS

In 2015, an offshoot of Anonymous self-described as Ghost Security or GhostSec started targeting Islamic State-affiliated websites and social media handles.[136][137][138]

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Case Donald Trump

In March 2016, Anonymous was reported to have declared war on Donald Trump.[155] However, the "Anonymous Official" YouTube channel released a video denouncing #OpTrump as an operation that "goes against everything Anonymous stands for" in reference to censorship and added "we are for everyone letting their voices be heard, even, if the person at hand...is a monster."[156]


Vir [156] preusmerja direktno do videa na youtube kanalu Anonymous Official/AnonymousWorldvoce. Go figure.

Vsi videi na kanalu so protizahodni, po sestrelitvi Su-24 so se spravili na Turčijo, itn. Enostavno preveč indicev.

https://www.youtube.com/user/AnonymousWorldvoce/videos

Kontraobveščevalec Pac-Man over&out.
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Pac_Man

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Isti video nasprotuje tudi #OpISIS


Super, Rusija, spet ste pokazali prave barve.
 

Pac_Man

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#OpISIS

In 2015, an offshoot of Anonymous self-described as Ghost Security or GhostSec started targeting Islamic State-affiliated websites and social media handles.[136][137][138]

https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Ghost_Security

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Ghost Security (also known as GhostSec) is a self-described "vigilante" group that was formed to attack ISIS websites that promote Islamic extremism.[1][2] It is considered an offshoot of the Anonymous hacking collective.[3][4] According to experts of online Jihad activism, the group gained momentum after the Charlie Hebdo shooting in Paris in January 2015.[2] The group claims to have taken down hundreds of ISIS-affiliated websites or social media accounts and thwarted potential terrorist attacks by cooperating with law enforcement and intelligence agencies.[5] The group uses social media hashtags like #GhostSec or #OpISIS to promote its activities.[3]

On November 14, Anonymous posted a video[6] announcing its "biggest operation ever" against the terrorist group[7][8] in response to the attacks in Paris, taking down 3,824 pro-ISIS Twitter accounts[9] and doxxing recruiters.[10] A message posted by an ISIS-affiliated account on encrypted chat service Telegram replied defiantly to Anonymous by providing instructions on how to respond to a potential cyberattack.[11][12] On the 25th of November an ISIS WordPress dark web site was hacked by and replaced with an advert for Prozac.[13]
 

AndY1

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Če je to, kar pišeš, res, potem morajo biti rusi res uspešni, glede na to, da imajo čez 736.000 naročnikov na YT kanal.
 

B81

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Pa ni bolj pomembna vsebina videa kot rusi? Sploh NIMA VEZE, kdo je video izdelal, če so to preverjene informacije, je prva štala.

Pa kaj je sploh s tabo in temi Rusi?
 

Hanzi

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pri taščici
Mene pa zanima kaksen sistem imajo to v usa da imajo ze pol leta ta cirkus okoli volitev. Nasi mediji pa tudi spremljaji ta cirkus samo zaradi Melanije.se starse je odpeljala iz banana drzave. Edino cudno se mi zdi da hise se niso prodali.
 

dejan_

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Uporabnik dejan_ pravi:
Če bo ta butec res predsednik ZDA, nam lahko pa res edino še bog poimaga

Butec? Ti torej resno misliš,da je Trump butec (torej neumen)?


Butec - karikirano. Dec je zgleda precej pameten, problem je v tem ker je pameten samo za lastno rit, pa verjetno še za par svojih ½revnih½ prjatlov. Za vse ostale se mu pa jebe.

Predsednik ZDA ima dejansko moč, da lahko kaj spremeni v svetu. Samo škoda, ker vedno ostane le pri besedah, v ozadju pa igrice za VEČ....
 

Pepe

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Američani imajo očitno krepko demokracijo znotraj dveh največjih strank in izbirajo kandidate na resnih strankarskih volitvah. To je ta scena. Seveda obstajajo tudi druge stranke v ZDA in tudi te imajo svoje kandidate, vendar o tem v naših medijih še nisem zasledil besede. Sicer imajo ti kandidati nične možnosti za uspeh.
Trump gor ali dol, to na nas ne bo imelo velikega vpliva. Očitno pa so si tudi v ZDA zaželeli "nove politike". To je Slovencem dobro poznano. Da gre za drugo preobleko starih reči, je tudi znano. Kolikor spremljam kolega iz ZDA na FB, je njemu važno, da mu pustijo nemoteno nošnjo orožja, ker verjame, da se samo tako lahko zaščiti v določenih situacijah. Tu je bližje Trump. Glede šolnin mu je bližje evropski sistem (ima ženo iz Evrope) in kot kandidat Sanders. Delil je tudi oglas od neke liberalne stranke, nam nepoznane.
Kako bo volil, se najbrž še ni odločil.
 

bizi

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Američani imajo očitno krepko demokracijo znotraj dveh največjih strank in izbirajo kandidate na resnih strankarskih volitvah. To je ta scena. Seveda obstajajo tudi druge stranke v ZDA in tudi te imajo svoje kandidate, vendar o tem v naših medijih še nisem zasledil besede. Sicer imajo ti kandidati nične možnosti za uspeh.

Ameriški volilni sistem s svojimi elektorji in super elektorji je prava farsa demokracije. Še voliti ne more tisti, ki se ni prijavil pol leta prej, da bi rad volil.
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Pa še glasov ne znajo šteti, tako da je moralo o predsedniku leta 2000 odločati vrhovno sodišče.