Rusi v Siriji

boomslang · 5. okt 2015

Sem mislu, že dopoldne prlimat tole Krasuhko, pa se ljudje tolk ukvarjajo z drevesi namesto z gozdom, da se mi ni ljubilo... Krasuha - je povsem nova igračka in operativna šele od 2014... "Mobile electronic warfare systems "Krasuha-4" suppress spy satellites, ground-based radars and airborne systems AWACS (Airborne Warning and Control System).
Complex "Krasuha-4" fully covers an object from radar detection at 150-300 kilometers, and may also cause damage to enemy radar electronic warfare and communications systems. The complex functioning is based on creating powerful jamming at the fundamental radar frequencies and other radio-emitting sources."

AndY1 · 5. okt 2015

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Če sem prav razumel, zapirajo sirski zračni prostor?

Tako je. Nobenih upadov s strani Izraela, Turčije itn. Konec koncev, kdorkoli leta po sirskem zračnem prostoru razen sirijcev in rusov, kršijo zračni prostor suverene države.
NATO države nimajo mandata letanja po zračnem prostoru Sirije. Bi ga morale dobiti od UN-a, pa ga nimajo, a so do sedaj to brez problema kršile.

AndY1 · 5. okt 2015

Če še 1x prilimam pokritost ruskih AA sistemov, ki so trenutno nameščeni v Siriji. Križarka Moskva še ni dodana na to mapo:

eazy · 5. okt 2015

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Meanwhile, the latest UN report released in June 2013 confirms several allegations of chemical weapons attacks but concludes it:

“… has not been possible, on the evidence available, to determine the precise chemical agents used, their delivery systems or the perpetrator.”

kakšna preciznost in to so ugotovili 2 meseca PRED napadom. Sem že kdaj v življenju videl kakšno raketo in vem,kaj je 330 milimetrov in ne,ne moreš je prenašat naokoli. Recimo jugoslovanski Orkan je imel kaliber 262-kako pa raketa izgleda vidiš na wikiju.

Videl sem zagotovo vec raket od tebe, pa tudi posledic. Sicer ta "raketa" nima nobene veze z Orkanom ampak vseeno. To raketo JE mogoce nositi okoli... Recimo to pocnejo tukaj:

Sicer se tudi pri Orkanu (no ja, vsaj v tej verziji) da bp rakete prenasati okoli:

Je pa raketa Orkana precej tezja za manipulacijo od prve. Srbi so iz "RSK" izstreljevali v casu vojne pri sosedih rocno nalagali precej vecje rakete.

Ni ravno znanost....

boomslang · 5. okt 2015

The former head of the US Army REW Lori Bakhut on this occasion said: "Our main problem is that we have not fought in conditions of jammed communications for several decades, so we have no idea how to act in such a situation. We have no strategy and algorithm of actions, we are absolutely not prepared to conduct combat operations in the absence of communication. US does not have such extensive capabilities or REW what Russia has. We have a very good radio intelligence, and we can conduct wiretapping round the clock, but when it comes to shutting down enemy hardware – our abilities are not even one tenth of what Russian army can do" --- According to the portal “Defence News”, the Pentagon decided to rectify the situation and launched a program that will make a difference, but the first results are expected only by 2023.

Mont · 5. okt 2015

Sem že zasledil, da če želi Evropa pomoč Turčije glede zaustavitve lenuhov, se mora vspostaviti "varna" cona z zaprtim zračnim prometom na severu Sirije ali SV. Temu pa Rusija nasprotuje iz razlogov,ki si jih navedel.

Burna bo še ta jesen. Tam vojna velesil, pri nas pa lenuhi, za katere smo revna država. Božčki. Čimprej naj zapade 2 metra snega.

harigast · 5. okt 2015

Ja,takole pa že.

Mont · 5. okt 2015

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The former head of the US Army REW Lori Bakhut on this occasion said: "Our main problem is that we have not fought in conditions of jammed communications for several decades, so we have no idea how to act in such a situation. We have no strategy and algorithm of actions, we are absolutely not prepared to conduct combat operations in the absence of communication. US does not have such extensive capabilities or REW what Russia has. We have a very good radio intelligence, and we can conduct wiretapping round the clock, but when it comes to shutting down enemy hardware – our abilities are not even one tenth of what Russian army can do" --- According to the portal “Defence News”, the Pentagon decided to rectify the situation and launched a program that will make a difference, but the first results are expected only by 2023.

A to se zafrkavaš, ali resno, da je to priznal?

eazy · 5. okt 2015

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Ja,takole pa že.

Prav takale je bila uporabljena...

Mont · 5. okt 2015

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Videl sem zagotovo vec raket od tebe, pa tudi posledic.

Ti si torej eden od teh "vikend" teroristov?

AndY1 · 5. okt 2015

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A to se zafrkavaš, ali resno, da je to priznal?

Poslušaj tole. Vredno ogleda:

https://www.rt.com/news/317710-russia-red-lines-flynn/

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“We have to understand as Americans that Russia also has foreign policy; Russia also has a national security strategy. And I think that we failed to understand what that is,” said the former DIA chief.

Commenting on Russia’s decision to go into Syria, Flynn said the he believes that Moscow’s “unstated red lines were crossed.”

“And I think that those unstated red lines was the size and the scale of those radical Islamists that came out of the Russian Federation to fight inside of Syria in this Islamic State,” he explained.

“We can’t have two great nations like Russia and the US diving into this very complex situation...you could end up bumping into each other and causing something very different,” he said, calling Russia’s military action a “huge, huge step in the complexity of this situation.”

boomslang · 5. okt 2015

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Sem že zasledil, da če želi Evropa pomoč Turčije glede zaustavitve lenuhov, se mora vspostaviti "varna" cona z zaprtim zračnim prometom na severu Sirije ali SV. Temu pa Rusija nasprotuje iz razlogov,ki si jih navedel.

Burna bo še ta jesen. Tam vojna velesil, pri nas pa lenuhi, za katere smo revna država. Božčki. Čimprej naj zapade 2 metra snega.

Evropa je imela 4 leta časa, da naredi, kaj okoli Sirije in beguncev, pa se je kot vedno v zadnjih 20ih letih pokakala...Vse dokler ne bo imela svoje lastne zunanje politike, namesto ameriške, ki ji slepo sledi, kot pudeljček in lasne ( ne NATO) vojske, pomeni na globalnem "bojišæu", toliko kot pol pič.e hladne vode...

skala · 5. okt 2015

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Če še 1x prilimam pokritost ruskih AA sistemov, ki so trenutno nameščeni v Siriji. Križarka Moskva še ni dodana na to mapo:

em... to je malo veš kot 150/300 km...
razen če se ni svet zadnja leta precej skrčil

AndY1 · 5. okt 2015

Vem, to se je tudi meni čudno zdelo. Mogoče, če kdo drug ve, kaj naj bi kroga pomenila. Drugače pa,
S-300: https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/S-300_%28missile%29
S-400: https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/S-400_%28missile%29

jest5 · 5. okt 2015

S-400 ima detekcijo do 600km. Mrbit je to na sliki

skala · 5. okt 2015

ne. že notranji krog je več kot 600km radija.
taki veliki krogi bi bili edino za kakšne zemlja-zemlja rakete srednjega dosega.

eazy · 5. okt 2015

panika v mostvu je popolna....

boomslang · 5. okt 2015

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Vem, to se je tudi meni čudno zdelo. Mogoče, če kdo drug ve, kaj naj bi kroga pomenila. Drugače pa,
S-300: https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/S-300_%28missile%29
S-400: https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/S-400_%28missile%29

Domet se gleda pol kroga... Tale večji krog je cca 600 Km in je dosegljiv iz jahtice po imenu Moskva - projektil se pa imenuje - P-1000 Vulkan...Nosi standarno ali jedrsko glavico..

Tahudfirbc · 5. okt 2015

Ne, zapirajo obroč okoli Rusije.
In če komurkoli ni znana zgodovina Rusije, no v bistu vseh slovanskih narodov...ne marajo "Turčinov".

boomslang · 5. okt 2015

Sem šel mal preverjat.... Tale slikca mora bit kaj drugega...

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