Rusi v Siriji

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Uporabnik harigast pravi:Jaz tudi mislim,da lahko samo miroljubni in nadvse razsodni predsednik prosi tujo vojsko,da uničuje njegovo lastno državo in pobija državljane.Ostalih strank v postopku vsaj ni povabil
Asad je uporabil kemično orožje (potrjeno od UN,ne od USA)

To pa vsekakor ni res. Niti priblizno. Predvidevam da bi miroljubni in nadvse razsodni predsednik drzavo v imenu ljudstva moral prepustiti "IS"?
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U.S., UK, French, and German intelligence services concluded

In kako so prišli do ugotovitev? So šli na teren v Sirijo?

Preberi si sledeče: https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Ghouta_chemical_attack

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The evidence available concerning the nature, quality and quantity of the agents used on 21 August indicated that the perpetrators likely had access to the chemical weapons stockpile of the Syrian military, as well as the expertise and equipment necessary to manipulate safely large amount of chemical agents."[30] It also stated that the chemical agents used in the Khan al-Assal chemical attack "bore the same unique hallmarks" as those used in Al-Ghouta attack.

Khan al-Assal attack = http://www.bbc.com/news/world-middle-east-22424188

Za katerega je bilo ugotovljeno, da so ga izvedli uporniki. Uporniki pa so pred tem zavzeli kar nekaj orožja sirske vojske in posledično tudi njihove zaloge Sarina.

Uporniki so 2x uporabili Sarin in pri tem hoteli obtožiti Assada.

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Inspectors from the United Nations Mission arrived in Syria on August 18, three days before the attack. They were present at the Syrian government's invitation to look into previous alleged chemical weapons use.[17](p6) The inspectors were staying in central Damascus, 12 kilometers or less from all three attack sites.

Povej mi, bi Assad uporabil Sarin med tem, ko je imel pri sebi preiskovalce UN-a ravno zaradi Sarina? Misliš, da je butast?
 
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Malo si datume poglej.

During the UN inspection team's visit in August 2013, a large-scale chemical weapons attack outside of Damascus occurred, shifting the inspection team's focus. U.S., UK, French, and German intelligence services concluded that the Assad regime was responsible for the attacks, accusations which were supported by the UN inspection team's report. [14] Subsequent diplomatic pressure by the U.S. and Russia resulted in Syria joining the Chemical Weapons Convention (CWC) and agreeing to disarmament of its chemical weapons stockpiles with a deadline of 30 June 2014. [15] OPCW teams were dispatched to Syria to destroy chemical weapons and related production equipment.

Ghouta je bila bilo zelo k. ocitna false flag operacija (CIA&Co.)
 

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Ti kot poznavalec kamelarskih šeg in običajev zelo dobro veš kako in kaj je v Siriji pa i šire,tako da nima smisla se z ekspertom pregovarjat. Naj se pobijejo med sabo.saj to je bil ameriški plan,zdaj bodo pa Rusi malo pospešili zadevo.
 

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Ne vem, kdo ti jih je, ampak jaz ti jih nisem. Mislim, da je tako, da če označiš nekaj za spam, pa da se ne nabere dosti takih, ki kliknejo na spam, da potem tisti, ki so, izgubijo kredibilnost.

Nate nisem niti pomislil, zato sem pisal v množini (si tudi del Alter - teama) in odgovarjal sem na tvoj post.

Aja, zdaj me bo pa že računalnik ocenjeval
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Se pravi odprem temo "Kvačkanje pletenje" in v njo napišem, da je Damjan Murko car.

Temo bo pogledal samo en uporabnik in stisnil "spam". In zato izgubil kredibilnost.
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Pa sorry za tale spam v temi.

Tole dol bo še veselo oz. lahko odločujoče glede svetovne prevlade.

Vladimir ni šel tja ponavljat zgodovine "pušenja" iz 80 - desetih.

Proti njemu je Obama navaden pussy, samo ni sam.
 

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Ti kot poznavalec kamelarskih šeg in običajev zelo dobro veš kako in kaj je v Siriji pa i šire,tako da nima smisla se z ekspertom pregovarjat. Naj se pobijejo med sabo.saj to je bil ameriški plan,zdaj bodo pa Rusi malo pospešili zadevo.

Trditi ali verjeti da je Assad uporabil orozje 3 dni po povabilu "kontrole" kemicnega orozja je rahlo moteno...
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Ti kot poznavalec kamelarskih šeg in običajev zelo dobro veš kako in kaj je v Siriji pa i šire,tako da nima smisla se z ekspertom pregovarjat. Naj se pobijejo med sabo.saj to je bil ameriški plan,zdaj bodo pa Rusi malo pospešili zadevo.

Trditi ali verjeti da je Assad uporabil orozje 3 dni po povabilu "kontrole" kemicnega orozja je rahlo moteno...
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To sem mu hotel tudi sam dopovedati, pa se kar ne da.


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https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Ghouta_chemical_attack

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Inspectors from the United Nations Mission arrived in Syria on August 18, three days before the attack. They were present at the Syrian government's invitation to look into previous alleged chemical weapons use.[17](p6) The inspectors were staying in central Damascus, 12 kilometers or less from all three attack sites.

Povej mi, bi Assad uporabil Sarin med tem, ko je imel pri sebi preiskovalce UN-a ravno zaradi Sarina? Misliš, da je butast?
 
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During the UN inspection team's visit in August 2013, a large-scale chemical weapons attack outside of Damascus occurred, shifting the inspection team's focus. U.S., UK, French, and German intelligence services concluded that the Assad regime was responsible for the attacks, accusations which were supported by the UN inspection team's report. [14] Subsequent diplomatic pressure by the U.S. and Russia resulted in Syria joining the Chemical Weapons Convention (CWC) and agreeing to disarmament of its chemical weapons stockpiles with a deadline of 30 June 2014. [15] OPCW teams were dispatched to Syria to destroy chemical weapons and related production equipment.

Ja mislim,da je butast
 

eazy

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Mislim da si kr ti... Pa tudi vztrajno lazes....

UN Ghouta Area report[edit]

Main article: Report on the Alleged Use of Chemical Weapons in the Ghouta Area of Damascus on 21 August 2013

The UN investigation into the chemical attacks in Ghouta was published on 16 September 2013. The report stated that "the environmental, chemical and medical samples we have collected provide clear and convincing evidence that surface-to-surface rockets containing the nerve agent Sarin were used in Ein Tarma, Moadamiyah and Zamalka in the Ghouta area of Damascus."[17](p8)[29] U.N. Secretary General Ban Ki-moon called the findings "beyond doubt and beyond the pale,” and a clear evidence of a war crime. "The results are overwhelming and indisputable." Ban stated a majority of the blood samples, environmental samples and rockets or rocket fragments recovered tested positive for sarin.[114] The report, which was "careful not to blame either side," said that during the mission's work in areas under rebel control, "individuals arrived carrying other suspected munitions indicating that such potential evidence is being moved and possibly manipulated .


Ja, Assad je povabil UN v kontrolo kemicnega orozja potem je pa 3 dni pozneje par km od UN ekipe uporabil kemicno orozje....
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, accusations which were supported by the UN inspection team's report

O really, ceprav v porocilu pise kontra
 

harigast

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In kje v tem poročilu piše,da tega ni storila Asadova vojska? A ti misliš,da je kar en pastir prišel tja in lansiral 330 mm raketo?
 

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In kje v tem poročilu piše,da tega ni storila Asadova vojska? A ti misliš,da je kar en pastir prišel tja in lansiral 330 mm raketo?

Potrebujes prevod?

Ban stated a majority of the blood samples, environmental samples and rockets or rocket fragments recovered tested positive for sarin.[114] The report, which was "careful not to blame either side," said that during the mission's work in areas under rebel control, "individuals arrived carrying other suspected munitions indicating that such potential evidence is being moved and possibly manipulated .

Potrebujes prevod? Pastirji v Siriji imajo zelo "prijateljev" ,ki imajo pri the zadevah ogromno izkusenj (pa tudi precej zalog).
 

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Logično. Zaradi tega so pobrali sarin Asadovi vojski,upornikom pa so ga pustili,da bi v miru manipulrali z dokazi. Pa idividualsi so nosili 330 mm izstrelke naokoli-verjetno na rami.
 

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Logično. Zaradi tega so pobrali sarin Asadovi vojski,upornikom pa so ga pustili,da bi v miru manipulrali z dokazi. Pa idividualsi so nosili 330 mm izstrelke naokoli-verjetno na rami.

Ne, teleportirajo taksen zadeve. Gre za topshit hi-tech orozje, kajnede.
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Zagotovo ves da govorimo o improviziranih raketah ,ki se bolj ali manj prenasajo na *rami* Izstreljujo pa tudi na vse mozne nacin. Nic prav high-tech...

Meanwhile, the latest UN report released in June 2013 confirms several allegations of chemical weapons attacks but concludes it:

“… has not been possible, on the evidence available, to determine the precise chemical agents used, their delivery systems or the perpetrator.”

Further complicating the matter, Dave Gavlak, a veteran Middle East correspondent for Associated Press, cites interviews with “doctors, Ghouta residents, rebel fighters and their families” who believe that “certain rebels received chemical weapons via the Saudi intelligence chief, Prince Bandar bin Sultan, and were responsible for carrying out the gas attack.”
 

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Meanwhile, the latest UN report released in June 2013 confirms several allegations of chemical weapons attacks but concludes it:

“… has not been possible, on the evidence available, to determine the precise chemical agents used, their delivery systems or the perpetrator.”

kakšna preciznost in to so ugotovili 2 meseca PRED napadom. Sem že kdaj v življenju videl kakšno raketo in vem,kaj je 330 milimetrov in ne,ne moreš je prenašat naokoli. Recimo jugoslovanski Orkan je imel kaliber 262-kako pa raketa izgleda vidiš na wikiju.
 

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Če koga zanima, malo bolj resno, kaj se dogaja na vojaškem področju med NATOm in Rusijo, še posebej trenutno v Siriji, si lahko prebere članek... http://breakingdefense.com/2015/09/russians-in-syria-building-a2ad-bubble-over-region-breedlove/ -- Russians In Syria Building A2/AD ‘Bubble’ Over Region: Breedlove ...

Jp, na letališču imajo, poleg S-300 in S400 tudi Krasuha-4:

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V zalivu pa imajo križarko Moskvo, opremljeno s 64 S-300 raketami in radarskim dosegom 300km in dosegom S-300 150km.
 

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Meanwhile, the latest UN report released in June 2013 confirms several allegations of chemical weapons attacks but concludes it:

“… has not been possible, on the evidence available, to determine the precise chemical agents used, their delivery systems or the perpetrator.”

kakšna preciznost in to so ugotovili 2 meseca PRED napadom. Sem že kdaj v življenju videl kakšno raketo in vem,kaj je 330 milimetrov in ne,ne moreš je prenašat naokoli. Recimo jugoslovanski Orkan je imel kaliber 262-kako pa raketa izgleda vidiš na wikiju.

A tebi ni jasno, da sta bila dva napada s sarinom? Prvi (on 19 March 2013) je bil potrjen, da je bi s strani upornikov:
https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Khan_al-Assal_chemical_attack
http://www.bbc.com/news/world-middle-east-22424188

Drugi pa 21 August 2013: https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Ghouta_chemical_attack
 

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Moscow ready for contact with Free Syrian Army - FM Lavrov

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Russia is ready for contact with the Free Syrian Army, but it is now a 'phantom,' Russian Foreign Minister Sergey Lavrov has said at a news conference following talks with his Laos counterpart in Moscow.

"They tell us about the Free Syrian Army, but where is it? It remains a phantom group, nothing is known about it," Lavrov said, adding that Russia has sent a request about the group to the United States.

"We will be ready to establish contact with it if it’s really a capable military group of patriotic opposition consisting of Syrians. We do not hide this fact. But this structure is already a phantom. I have asked [State Secretary] John Kerry to provide us with information about the whereabouts of this Free Syrian Army and who commands it," said Lavrov.

"So far no one has told us where and how this Free Syrian Army operates or where and how other units of the so-called moderate opposition operate."

The minister also said that Moscow has asked the United States for details on the army.