Napetost v Ukrajini - Krimu

jest5

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Da gre za M16-A5 trdijo samo težko pro-ruski viri, v obupanem poskusu dokazat ameriško udeležbo.
Ane, rtv je zihr med njimi
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Pac_Man

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Ne morem pomagat, če citirajo RIA-Novosti.

Gnews za M16-A5

http://www.ibtimes.com/ukraine...-russia-1788052

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“During the investigation of the new terminal, our units found large numbers of American-made weapons. Those are M16-A5 assault rifles, grenades, as well as means of communication,” Ria Novosti quoted the DPR commander as saying.

Ampak nobene omembe, da gre za nov model.
 

darjan

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13. sep 2007
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Hm, nekaj bere kontra novica, nekje pišejo da je ukrajinska vojska v ofenzivi, nekje da so rusi.

Kaj je zdaj res, ni nobenega nevtralnega vira na fronti?
 

Matey

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Verjetno obstajajo ampak ne uspejo razširit novic iz takšnih in drugačnih razlogov (morda jih tudi kdo avtomatsko označi za proUSA ali proRUS in se posledično ignorira njihova poročanja, takšnih primerov je cel kup na temu forumu, ko se zgolj zaradi nepoznane embalaže - ko ni ravno BBC, CNN ali RT - zavrača vsebino). Ugibam seveda, saj se mi zdi praktično skorajda nemogoče, da nebi bilo prav nobenih nevtralnih opazovalcev/poročevalcev, je pa razumljivo, da jih je izredno malo, če sploh dejansko obstajajo.
 

darjan

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Ta vojna je že od vsega začetka hudo krneke, oz sumljiva. Toliko vojakov, kot ima ukrajinska vojska in orožja, pa to bi moral bit tak hardcore spopad da bi se do sem slišalo treskanje...se pa samo nekaj obstreljujejo, ipd, in nastavljajo mine civilistom. Res nič jasno
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jekleni

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Menda sem pa ja napisal "menda".
Ni point v teh M16, ampak v tem, da orožje ne dokazuje tega, čemur ti praviš "ni več dvoma".
 

Pac_Man

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Saj železje že imajo, ampak v kakem stanju? Če tanka 20 let ne pogledaš, bo bolj slabo uporaben. Ravno včeraj sem videl svež video ukr tankov med potjo na fronto. dva sta bila že v navezi - eden je odpovedal.
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Preklopit bi morali na vojno ekonomijo in uvest splošno mobilizacijo ampak ni $$$ in volje. Dva na twitterju delata primerjave s Hrvaško do Oluje in so Hrvati konflikt vzeli precej bolj resno, Porošenko pa verjame v premirja in ukazuje tihe režime.

Poleg tega jih daje sama struktura in ex-sovjetski kavč-generali s takratnimi taktikami. Ukr bi morala poslat lepo število mladih na West point in podobne šole. Ampak to traja, časa pa ravno ni.

Enostavno - borijo se proti Rusiji. Ta sicer svoje sile dozira počasi, da večina ljudi sploh ne opazi. Edina pot do ukrajinskega uspeha je, da konflikt postane za Rusijo predrag. Finančno in v truplih. Premagali jih ne bodo.
 

Pac_Man

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Sankcije (in nafta) bubajo.

http://www.bloombergview.com/articles/2015-01-23/putin-s-propaganda-industry-tightens-its-belt

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Last year, the state news agency, ITAR-TASS went back to its Soviet brand, simply TASS -- once short for "the Soviet Union's Telegraph Agency", now a standalone acronym like BP -- and adopted the proud slogan "We know." Ramzan Kadyrov, the fiercely pro-Putin leader of Chechnya, went so far as to name a mountain peak in the Caucasus after TASS. But yesterday, the agency, which had just two years ago tempted many private media journalists with salaries only an oil monarchy could pay, announced a 25 percent staff cut and a 20 percent salary cut. Those who refuse to take it are offered five times their monthly salaries to quit immediately.
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The government-owned Rossiyskaya Gazeta, which holds the monopoly on the official publication of new laws and government decrees, is letting go 10 percent of its staff. News Media, the holding company that runs a number of media assets for Putin's close friend Yury Kovalchuk, decided to cut between 15 and 30 percent of its staff, including 15 to 17 percent of the employees of Lifenews, the TV channel that has carried some of the most powerful domestically-targeted propaganda on the Ukraine crisis.
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Six months ago, RT had been promised a 30 percent increase to its 2014 budget so it could start broadcasting in German and French. Now, the 2015 allocation, 15.4 billion rubles ($240 million), will be cut by 10 percent. RT is still getting more money than last year, but the ruble's sharp devaluation in recent months means that the dollar value of the subsidy has decreased by 46 percent. That's important for RT because it works in foreign markets and hires foreigners. According to RT editor Margarita Simonyan, about 80 percent of the operation's expenses are in foreign currencies. Plans for the German and French versions will probably be scrapped, Simonyan told the daily Vedomosti, at least for this year.

At the same time, the Russian Communications Ministry is setting tougher goals for Russia Today to justify the subsidy. In Russian government programs, future disbursements depend on how the subsidy recipient meets key performance indicators -- see, Russian government managers have been to business school! So a new version of the "Information Society 2011-2020" program, under which Russia Today is funded, requires RT to have an audience of 640 million, up from 630 million in the previous version. If the program is approved, Russia Today will also need to make sure that its work is cited 13,500 times by foreign media, compared with 7500 times planned for 2014.
 
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Začetek gradnje mostu za Krim (aka napad na Mariupol):
https://twitter.com/StateOfUkraine/status/558903931292876800

Drug napad gre na mesto Debaltseve
https://twitter.com/StateOfUkraine/status/558863243654213632

Edino pravilno, poleti ne bi smeli prekiniti akcije in bi uredili razmere.

Dejansko pa so stvar zakuhalu fašisti iz Kijeva, ki so s tanki napadli letališče in se morali kar hitro pobrati.

So pa te katjuše zelo solidno orožje, edino kako hitro se to nafila?
 
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Izbrisan uporabnik #488

Kot vidiš razpada tudi kapitalistični sistem...

cmerarja pa že imamo
 

Ytbnd

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Uporabnik Ytbnd pravi:
Začetek gradnje mostu za Krim (aka napad na Mariupol):
https://twitter.com/StateOfUkraine/status/558903931292876800

Drug napad gre na mesto Debaltseve
https://twitter.com/StateOfUkraine/status/558863243654213632

Edino pravilno, poleti ne bi smeli prekiniti akcije in bi uredili razmere.

Dejansko pa so stvar zakuhalu fašisti iz Kijeva, ki so s tanki napadli letališče in se morali kar hitro pobrati.

So pa te katjuše zelo solidno orožje, edino kako hitro se to nafila?
Sarkazm detektor moraš dati v ponovno kalibracijo.

Boji za letališče so trajali skoraj 240 dni.
V Moskvi je 100x več fašistov.
Ukrajina kakor je meni znano ni aneksirala Sahalina, ne napada svojo vojsko Volvograd, Voronež in Samaro kot tudi ne tolče z raketami po ruskih civilistih v Taganrogu.

S svojo nerazgledanostjo si boš naredil uslugo če nehaš trolati.
 
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Izbrisan uporabnik #488

torej bogi srbi, ki so napadli svojo državo, pokrajino kosovo

ukrajino je treba razparcelirati, dejstvo

kje se klati timošenkova?