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Ali bo EU dala Putinu sankcije? Al kaj?
sankcije so dale rezultat samo draginji v eu
Lep poskus izmikanja odgovoru preko relativizacije in whataboutisma. Pričakovano.
visek_izobrazbe
Guru
predvidevam da si pozabil na 800 milijard vreden obrambni proračun
Če spremljaš samo iz RU kanalov, potem je res, niti 0.1% se ni poznalo RU.
-Od kje bomo pa teh 800 miljard vzeli, da jih bomo prerazporedili v obrambni proračun?
- Noben politik še ni povedal, da bo teh miljard namenjeno v Ukrajino, ampak pravijo da bo šlo v našo industrijo.
- dosedanji 20x višji obrambni proračun zahoda v primerjavi z Rusijo, Ukrajini ni zagotovil prednosti, ker ukrajinci rabijo motibirane vojake, ki jih nimajo dovolj.
- Pozabil si, da se ZDA počasi umika iz vojaške pomoči Ukrajini, in bodo te EU miljarde samo nadomestilo za izgubo ameriških miljard. Na krartko, EU bo prevzela dosedanjo Ameriško pomoč nase.
Saj ne pravimo zastonj, : Ameriki rudnine, Rusiji ozemlje, Ukrajini Slava, EU pa dolgovi in plačilo računov.
visek_izobrazbe
Guru
model iz davkov in ja v obrambni proračun gredo, malo poslušaj liderje. To da se usa umikajo ni nč narobe, mamo fabrike ki delajo top vojaške produkte... Ukrajina bo pa poleg slave zagotovo dobila še kaj drugega.
Kdo je že rekel, da bo vsaka ponudba iz ZDA slabša? Sporazum velja za nedoločen čas, čez 10 let lahko ZDA ali pa UA odstopi ali spremeni sporazum.
Najbolj zanimivo je pa to, da je Trump po sporazumu na hitro odboril neposredno komercialno prodajo orožja Ukrajini.
1.
Before: Ukraine's mineral resources were to be transferred to U.S. ownership until full compensation of $500 billion was repaid (Feb 17, The Telegraph).
After: Ukraine's mineral resources remain under Ukraine's ownership.
2.
Before: Ukraine contributed 67% of the revenues to the investment fund, the U.S. contributed 33%, and kept the rest (Feb 22, Radio NV).
After: Contribution is split 50/50. Fair and equal.
2a.
Before: The U.S. had 3 board members in the investment fund, Ukraine had 2; the U.S. had a majority when making decisions (Mar 27, Yaroslav Zheleznyak).
After: Neither side holds a majority. (Presumably 3:3).
3.
Before: The U.S. hinted at interest in privatizing "Ukrnafta" and "Energoatom."
After: Ukraine's national assets are protected -- no privatization of "Ukrnafta" or "Energoatom."
4.
Before: Ukraine was expected to repay the U.S. for aid provided since 2022 (Mar 27, Yaroslav Zheleznyak).
After: No debts. The U.S. can invest and earn profits, but Ukraine has no retroactive obligations
5.
Before: The agreement contradicted Ukraine's path toward EU accession (Mar 27, Yaroslav Zheleznyak).
After: The agreement complies with Ukraine's Constitution and does not conflict with EU accession.
(Details of this point are not disclosed -- possibly the U.S. no longer has "first rights" over Ukrainian resources, or the issue lies elsewhere.)
6.
Before: Ukraine paid 50% of CURRENT income from its resources (Mar 27, Yaroslav Zheleznyak).
After: Ukraine contributes 50% of income from NEW investments in resources, oil, and gas. All revenue from current resources remains unchanged
7.
Targeted and limited changes are allowed. The agreement must be ratified by the Verkhovna Rada.
8.
The U.S. will help attract additional investments and technology. The fund is managed by the U.S. International Development Finance Corporation (DFC).
9.
The agreement provides tax guarantees. Income and contributions to the Fund are exempt from taxation.
There is also a sub-clause allowing Fund contributions not only in cash but also in the equivalent value of new weapons delivered to Ukraine (though this is not guaranteed).
Ukraine is also negotiating a ban on withdrawing funds from the Fund during the first 10 years -- meaning the profits would be reinvested in new projects instead of being pocketed.
Najbolj zanimivo je pa to, da je Trump po sporazumu na hitro odboril neposredno komercialno prodajo orožja Ukrajini.
1.
Before: Ukraine's mineral resources were to be transferred to U.S. ownership until full compensation of $500 billion was repaid (Feb 17, The Telegraph).
After: Ukraine's mineral resources remain under Ukraine's ownership.
2.
Before: Ukraine contributed 67% of the revenues to the investment fund, the U.S. contributed 33%, and kept the rest (Feb 22, Radio NV).
After: Contribution is split 50/50. Fair and equal.
2a.
Before: The U.S. had 3 board members in the investment fund, Ukraine had 2; the U.S. had a majority when making decisions (Mar 27, Yaroslav Zheleznyak).
After: Neither side holds a majority. (Presumably 3:3).
3.
Before: The U.S. hinted at interest in privatizing "Ukrnafta" and "Energoatom."
After: Ukraine's national assets are protected -- no privatization of "Ukrnafta" or "Energoatom."
4.
Before: Ukraine was expected to repay the U.S. for aid provided since 2022 (Mar 27, Yaroslav Zheleznyak).
After: No debts. The U.S. can invest and earn profits, but Ukraine has no retroactive obligations
5.
Before: The agreement contradicted Ukraine's path toward EU accession (Mar 27, Yaroslav Zheleznyak).
After: The agreement complies with Ukraine's Constitution and does not conflict with EU accession.
(Details of this point are not disclosed -- possibly the U.S. no longer has "first rights" over Ukrainian resources, or the issue lies elsewhere.)
6.
Before: Ukraine paid 50% of CURRENT income from its resources (Mar 27, Yaroslav Zheleznyak).
After: Ukraine contributes 50% of income from NEW investments in resources, oil, and gas. All revenue from current resources remains unchanged
7.
Targeted and limited changes are allowed. The agreement must be ratified by the Verkhovna Rada.
8.
The U.S. will help attract additional investments and technology. The fund is managed by the U.S. International Development Finance Corporation (DFC).
9.
The agreement provides tax guarantees. Income and contributions to the Fund are exempt from taxation.
There is also a sub-clause allowing Fund contributions not only in cash but also in the equivalent value of new weapons delivered to Ukraine (though this is not guaranteed).
Ukraine is also negotiating a ban on withdrawing funds from the Fund during the first 10 years -- meaning the profits would be reinvested in new projects instead of being pocketed.
Haha, dobro vas vlečejo.
Če bi bil tak sporazum, kot je sedaj podpisan že v štartu, bi si še kdo mislil, da je to za ukrajino slab sporazum, pa so malo zaigrali, tako da ste sedaj navdušeni nad sporazumom, ker kao bi bil lahko še slabši.
Me prav zanima, kaj bi pisali, če bi recimo hipotetično Ukrajina dala Rusom vse to, kar je dala američanom, v zameno za... khhmm kaj že ????.
Se mi zdi da bi pisali, kako je Putin oropal ukrajince, da se mu gre za rudnine in jih krade, hoče nadzor nad ukrajino....... imam prav? al bi v tem primeru tudi pisali, kako je sporazum dober za ukrajino?
Saj to sprašujem, pa nisi odgovoril.
Kaj se je pa dosedaj financirali iz teh davkov, pa se sedaj ne bo več, ker bo ta denar šel v vojaški proračun.
haha imaš prav. Takoj v ponedeljek v Litostroju začnemo z proizvodnjo raket, ki so še boljše od himarsov in patriotov, v Lescah bodo začeli lansirat satelite, ki bodo te izboljšane himarse in patriote navigirale, Boscarol pa v Ajdovščini začne izdelovat Fxx16.
Ukrajina bo dobila Slavo in mogoče kvečjemu še kakšen orešnik,
visek_izobrazbe
Guru
mirsi kolk je hudo tam pod kavkazom da take streljaš?
visek_izobrazbe
Guru
kaj ti nisem odogovoril? spremljaš poročila? tam zveš kaj in kako glede davkov..pri firmh si ga malo lomil. Sicer pa ja pipistrel bi znal kaj narest, drugače pa castral te zadeve že neki časa dela.Saj to sprašujem, pa nisi odgovoril.
Kaj se je pa dosedaj financirali iz teh davkov, pa se sedaj ne bo več, ker bo ta denar šel v vojaški proračun.
haha imaš prav. Takoj v ponedeljek v Litostroju začnemo z proizvodnjo raket, ki so še boljše od himarsov in patriotov, v Lescah bodo začeli lansirat satelite, ki bodo te izboljšane himarse in patriote navigirale, Boscarol pa v Ajdovščini začne izdelovat Fxx16.
visek_izobrazbe
A ga še nisi dal na ignor? Jaz že od lani nisem videl njegovih postov
Ne rabim srbske greznice, ki nima še za plin.
A ga še nisi dal na ignor? Jaz že od lani nisem videl njegovih postov
Ne rabim srbske greznice, ki nima še za plin.visek_izobrazbe
Guru
bi ga dal pa vidim da niti naših firm ne pozna dost dobro, saj vidiš kake klati....Mal splošne izobrazbe potem pa sledim tvojim namigomvisek_izobrazbe
A ga še nisi dal na ignor? Jaz že od lani nisem videl njegovih postov
Nazadnje sem videl lani njegovo greznico, samo škoda časa za takšne ljudi.
Edini če si oboževalec srbske/ruske greznice
