Rusi v Siriji

boomslang

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Putin danas posthumno dodijelio odlikovanja obiteljima poginulih u sirijskoj operaciji tako da je obzanjena i pogibija pripaadnika GRU koji se prije nije spominjao.

Poginuli:
- Peshkov, pilot oborenog Su-24
- Cheremisin, savjetnik-artiljerac stradao od TOW
- Pozynich, marinac poginuo u operaciji spasavanja pilota
- Fedor Zhuravlev, poginuo kao Spetsnaz jos prosle godine ali se sluzbeno sutilo
- Kostenko, samoubojstvo
 

titov

Fizikalc
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Citat:
One particular source states that the British and French Intelligence services believe that their Israeli counterparts are convinced that there is a positive side to the civil war in Syria; if the Assad regime topples, Iran would lose its only ally in the Middle East and would be isolated. At the same time, the fall of the House of Assad could well ignite a sectarian war between the Shiites and the majority Sunnis of the region drawing in Iran, which, in the view of Israeli commaders would not be a bad thing for Israel and its Western allies.

Izraleci so prepričani, da bi padec Assada vpletel Iran v vojno?
 

Floki

Guru
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Citat:
Uporabnik Snecer pravi:
Kdaj bo Izrael vrnil Golan?

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To je bilo retorično vprašanje?
 

Pac_Man

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10. maj 2014
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Izraelci so bili l. 2012 prepričani. L. 2016 je Iran že vpleten v vojno, bil je tudi glavni lobist za ruski vstop.

https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Iranian_involvement_in_the_Syrian_Civil_War

Citat:
Citing two Lebanese sources, Reuters reported on October 1, 2015 that hundreds of Iranian troops arrived in Syria over the previous 10 days and would soon join Syrian government forces and their Lebanese Hezbollah allies in a major ground offensive backed by Russian air strikes.[45] The Wall Street Journal reported on October 2, 2015 that Iran's Revolutionary Guard (the IRGC) has had some 7,000 IRGC members and Iranian paramilitary volunteers operating in Iran and was planning to expand its presence in the country through local fighters and proxies. The Journal also reported that some experts estimate 20,000 Shiite foreign fighters are on the ground, backed by both Shiite Iran and Hezbollah.[46]

At least 121 IRGC troops, including several commanders, have been killed in the Syrian Civil War since it began.[47][48][49]
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On 8 October 2015, brigadier general Hossein Hamadani, the deputy to General Qasem Soleimani in Syria was killed.[57][58][59][60] On 12 October, two more senior commanders of the Iranian Revolutionary Guard Corps, Hamid Mokhtarband and Farshad Hassounizadeh, were reported by Iranian media to have been killed in Syria.[61]
 

AndY1

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Dober članek: http://www.oil-price.net/en/articles/20-dollar-oil-price-and-six-trends.php

Citat:
The 5,600 km long Iran-Iraq-Syria pipeline, from the Iranian South Pars fields had the potential to reach European markets through Iraq and Syria. Since Russia's state controlled Gazprom sells more than eighty percent of gas to Europe, it supported the $10 billion pipeline as it would have had greater control over gas imported to Europe via Iran, the Caspian Sea and Central Asia. Saudi Arabia, however, did not want the pipeline. Instead, it wanted another pipeline with a North bound route from Qatar through Syria and Turkey (the Qatar-Turkey pipeline) to reach Europe. (Qatar's plans to build a pipeline from the Persian Gulf began in 2009. Qatar's gas field in the Persian Gulf is the largest natural gas field in the world. It is expensive to transport the gas through tankers to other countries.) Since the pipeline bypassed Iran, its ally Assad refused to sign the Qatar-Turkey pipeline as it would have exempted Iran from the picture. And, bitter from the experience Qatar, reportedly, funded anti-Assad rebels by injecting billions of dollars. Money, gas and religion segued into a bloody conflict.

iran-iraq-syria-pipeline.jpg
 

Pac_Man

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10. maj 2014
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Zanimivi standardi za kvaliteto.

Avtor naklada, kako je vse zaradi plinovodov, a za to ne poda nobenih argumentov. Poleg tega povsem spregleda, da so se težave začele v okviru arabske pomladi.

Saj ne rečem, v kasnejših fazah je lahko Katar motivirala tudi ruta plinovoda, ampak začelo se je s povsem legitimnimi protesti in trdim odzivom režima. Pametni telefoni, YT/FB in https pa so pripomogli, da tega niso mogli skrit in se je kepa kotalila dalje.

Saj po svoje so Američani celo (so)odgovorni, a hudič je v detajlih.
 

Matey

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6. sep 2007
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Žal nič novega ali presenetljivega, nekateri se zavedamo gnilobe zunanje politike ZDA :\ si bom pa sposodil tole za v še eno alter temo
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Pac_Man

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Zanimiv primer.

Za vsak slučaj dajem OCR-jan dokument, če bi kdo na svoje iskal

Citat:
UNCLASSIFIED U.S. Department of State Case No. F-2014-20439 Doc No. CO5794498 Date: 11/30/2015 RELEASE IN FULL
The best way to help Israel deal with Iran's growing nuclear capability is to help the people of Syria overthrow the regime of Bashar Assad. Back to Syria. It is the strategic relationship between Iran and the regime of Bashar Assad in Syria that makes it possible for Iran to undermine Israel's security — not through a direct attack, which in the thirty years of hostility between Iran and Israel has never occurred, but through its proxies in Lebanon, like Hezbollah, that are sustained, armed and trained by Iran via Syria. The end of the Assad regime would end this dangerous alliance. Israel's leadership understands well why defeating Assad is now in its interests. Speaking on CNN's Amanpour show last week, Bringing down Assad would not only be a massive boon to Israel's security, it would also ease Israel's understandable fear of losing its nuclear monopoly. Then, Israel and the United States might be able to develop a common view of when the Iranian program is so dangerous that military action could be warranted. Right now, it is the combination of Iran's strategic alliance with Syria and the steady progress in Iran's nuclear enrichment program that has led Israeli leaders to contemplate a surprise attack — if necessary over the objections of Washington. With Assad gone, and Iran no longer able to threaten Israel through its proxies, it is possible that the United States and Israel can agree on red lines for when Iran's program has crossed an unacceptable threshold. In short, the White House can ease the tension that has developed with Israel over Iran by doing the right thing in Syria. The rebellion in Syria has now lasted more than a year. The opposition is not going away, nor is the regime going to accept a diplomatic solution from the outside. With his life and his family at risk, only the threat or use of force will change the Syrian dictator Bashar Assad's mind.

Precej očitno naj bi šlo za rezultat FOIA in ne kako Wikileaks foro.

No, FOIA dokumenti so onlajn na uradni strani

https://foia.state.gov/Default.aspx

za "Case No. F-2014-20439 Doc No. CO5794498" ne najde nič

https://foia.state.gov/Search/SiteResults.aspx?type=No.%20F-2014-20439%20Doc%20No.%20CO5794498

medtem ko "Case No. F-2014-20439" izvrže precej zadetkov

https://foia.state.gov/Search/SiteResults.aspx?type=Case%20No.%20F-2014-20439

Če iščeš po tekstu,

https://www.google.com/search?...-8&oe=utf-8

dobiš tole

https://wikileaks.org/clinton-emails/emailid/18328

So na wikileaks šli na SDS po inštrukcije o ponarejanju dokumentov?
 

Pac_Man

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Nazadnje urejeno:

AndY1

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Osebje foruma
18. sep 2007
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Hillary sploh ne bi smela kandidirati za predsednico po teh varnostnih incidentih, ki jih je naredila, saj je naredilo ogromno varnostno škodo, da ne govorim o tem, kakšen psihopat je:

 

8888

mesija - Assassin's Creep
8. jul 2010
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blizu močvirne prestolnice
To da je ljudstvo fentalo psihopata in diktatorja ni nič narobe.Gnida si drugega ni zaslužila, res pa se v to nebi smeli vtikati nobena država. sploh pa ne takratna zunanja ministrica! Ta ima krvave roke, sploh pri primeru ameriškega veleposlanika!