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Izbrisan uporabnik #488
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Izbrisan uporabnik #488
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http://www.zenska.si/aktualno/dokazimo-da-dobrodelnost-niso-le-besede-in-pomagajmo-malemu-reneju/
No pa pomagajmo fantku
http://www.zenska.si/aktualno/dokazimo-da-dobrodelnost-niso-le-besede-in-pomagajmo-malemu-reneju/
No pa pomagajmo fantku
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Takšno razmišljanje je pravilno.
Pri nas bi zdravniki otroka naredili invalida, ki bi na koncu državo stal še več kot ta operacija.
Pa pri tem ni bistvo v ceni temveč v omejenem razmišljanju.
Bravo. To, kar počnejo (nekateri) pediatri pri nas je dejansko omejenost. In pogosto je razlog ego, ki ne dovoljuje, da kdo podvomi v njihovo doktrino, da kdo spodkoplje njihovo avtoriteto. In to je omejenost, ki je od izobraženega, etičnega človeka zares ne pričakuješ niti v najhujših sanjah. Ko slišiš, da je pediater staršem SVETOVAL, da naj se pripravijo na to, da bo otrok MORAL v invalidski voziček, za otroka, ki je potem močno napredoval (brez razvojne ambulante, brez fizioterapije) in danes hodi brez pomagal, se vprašaš, kaj je to za ena namišljena elita...
Ampak, stvari se spreminjajo, na bolje.
Ampak, stvari se spreminjajo, na bolje.
Saj niso samo pediatri, takih omejencev je javnem sektorju ogromno, od socialnih delavk, uciteljic, vzgojiteljev, profesorjev, zdravnikov itn... Prav si povedal, oni so studirani, pametni in ego do konca vesolja. Me razpizdi, ko se spomnim ... Mogoce se v zdravstvu kaj obraca na bolje prav zaradi drugega mnenja in tujine, na drugih podrocjih bo ostala stala. Tudi mlajse generacije v tem sistemu so isti [cenzura].
Jah, sistem uničuje. Zato pa čimprej stran od njega.
Jaz recimo vsakemu, ki me vpraša, če se nekaj da naredit povem, da se vse da, samo stane. Potem pa marsikdo samo obrne. Tudi ljudje so krivi za to, da je stanje tako kot je. Ker, citiram (vstavi 3 mestno številko) pacientov: "plačujem pa ja 22eurov na mesec za zdravstvo, pa nič ne dobim" - ja, no shit sherlock, jaz plačujem 20x več, pa lih tako nič ne dobim.
Sem mogu kr zračunat to cifro. No, tudi meni se stemni pred očmi ob podobni cifri na plačilnem listu. In potem mi hočejo tablete za uravnavanje pritiska in pulza še zaračunat, kao sej mate generik... Ma je.be.m vam generik, k sem končno najdu zadevo k nima stranskih učinkov name...
Sicer se sliši kruto, ampak verjetno je amputacija res najboljša možnost. Dilema je, ali fantu odrežejo nogo in v roku par mesecev zaživi relativno normalno mladost (moderne proteze so čudo tehnike) ali pa bo praktično do konca pubertete večino časa preživel po bolnišnicah, imobiliziran in v bolečinah, na koncu pa bo zelo verjetno slabše mobilen kot s protezo. Ampak noga bo pa le iz mesa in kosti.
http://www.ncbi.nlm.nih.gov/pubmed/11130646
RESULTS: The patients who underwent amputation were able to perform more activities than those who had a lengthening (mean activity score, 0 compared with 1.2 points; p<0.05), and they had less pain (mean pain score, 0.2 compared with 1.2 points; p = 0.091), were more satisfied and had a lower complication rate (0.37 compared with 1.91; p<0.05). The patients who underwent amputation also had fewer procedures (1.9 compared with 7.0; p<0.05), at a lower cost ($7016 compared with $26,900; p<0.05), than those who had a lengthening. Lengthening was successful in equalizing limb lengths; the mean limb-length discrepancy, assessed in nine of eleven limbs, was 0.7 centimeter.
CONCLUSIONS: This study demonstrated that children who undergo early amputation are more active, have less pain, are more satisfied, have fewer complications, undergo fewer procedures, and incur less cost than those who undergo lengthening. This was true even though good results were obtained with the lengthening procedures and most patients achieved limb-length equality, were able to walk, had minimal pain, and were quite active.
Argumentacija odločitve za amputacijo s strani ameriške družine pred isto dilemo:
http://www.lisaelaine4.blogspot.com/2011/08/then-there-were-two.html
Ergo: Če sinu želijo dobro, naj raje zbirajo denar za čimveč čimboljših protez. Bo fant verjetno veliko srečnejši.
http://www.ncbi.nlm.nih.gov/pubmed/11130646
RESULTS: The patients who underwent amputation were able to perform more activities than those who had a lengthening (mean activity score, 0 compared with 1.2 points; p<0.05), and they had less pain (mean pain score, 0.2 compared with 1.2 points; p = 0.091), were more satisfied and had a lower complication rate (0.37 compared with 1.91; p<0.05). The patients who underwent amputation also had fewer procedures (1.9 compared with 7.0; p<0.05), at a lower cost ($7016 compared with $26,900; p<0.05), than those who had a lengthening. Lengthening was successful in equalizing limb lengths; the mean limb-length discrepancy, assessed in nine of eleven limbs, was 0.7 centimeter.
CONCLUSIONS: This study demonstrated that children who undergo early amputation are more active, have less pain, are more satisfied, have fewer complications, undergo fewer procedures, and incur less cost than those who undergo lengthening. This was true even though good results were obtained with the lengthening procedures and most patients achieved limb-length equality, were able to walk, had minimal pain, and were quite active.
Argumentacija odločitve za amputacijo s strani ameriške družine pred isto dilemo:
http://www.lisaelaine4.blogspot.com/2011/08/then-there-were-two.html
Ergo: Če sinu želijo dobro, naj raje zbirajo denar za čimveč čimboljših protez. Bo fant verjetno veliko srečnejši.
