Napetost v Ukrajini - Krimu
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Zahvali se domačim izdajalcem- petokolonašem, kot nekateri pravijo.
No ja če že Orbana omenjaš, kaj naj potem rečemo za šipce. V Kranju so že kr večina.
Izredne razmere != vojno stanje.
Te izredne razmere, kot tudi sam incident, pa je itak izsiljen s stran Porošenka, ki bo izgubil volitve, ki bodo marca 2019. Trenutno ima le 8% in je na petem mestu.
Trump ni se nicesar odpovedal, govora pa je na srecanju G20 in ne v Moskvi.
Washington confirms Putin-Trump tete-a-tete meeting at G20 – Kremlin
https://www.rt.com/news/445131-putin-trump-g20-talk/
Ukrajina je gotova. Zaveznikov nima, rusi se pa tam širijo kot pri nas druge manjšine..potem pa aneksacija, medvedu pa itak nič ne moreš. BajePutin dejansko hoče nazaj veliko rusijo in bi naj to bila njegova "legacy". Tako da, niso vse ukrajinci krivi, kot nekateri tu hočejo prikazati.
Rusi imajo svoje revščine dovolj, zakaj bi hoteli še novo ?
Ukr vodstvo je nesposobno in koruptivno, tako kot v državah Balkana.
Ukr mislijo, da jih bodo kavbojci in nato podprli, če gredo dražiti Ruse - ne bodo jih, kar so na grd način spoznali že Gruzijci pod Sakašvilijem.
Ukr je fail state.
Ukr vodstvo je nesposobno in koruptivno, tako kot v državah Balkana.
Ukr mislijo, da jih bodo kavbojci in nato podprli, če gredo dražiti Ruse - ne bodo jih, kar so na grd način spoznali že Gruzijci pod Sakašvilijem.
Ukr je fail state.
In Rusi niso koruptivni in nesposobni...
dej no lepo te prosim...
Vsem tem državam je ena skupna točka, nesposobnost, korupcija. Folk v dražavi kot je Rusija bi moral imeti BDP na ravni Saudijcev, ne pa da so tam kjer so. Že če za nas rečeš da smo nesposobni, smo perle proti Rusom, vsaj po BDPju. In to naj bi bila energetsko najbolj bogata država.
In ti potem kvakaš tak nonsense.
Po mojem so oboji vredni svojega denarja. Sigurno pa bi bilo dokaj normalno, da bi sosednji državi gospodarsko dokaj veliko sodelovali, ker sta imeli dolgo let enotni trg in enake standarde. Ampak v Ukrajini je zmagala politika, ki verjame, da je rešitev ne zahodu, kjer so trgi že sedaj prenasičeni.
Slovenija je doživela enako in takoj po osamosvojitvi je zaradi mrka nekdanjega enotnega trga crknilo lepo število podjetij. Že pred osamosvojijo se je del SFRJ trga politično zaprl pred slovenskim blagom in verjetno ni bilo neke realne možnosti, da se to ne zgodi. Pri Ukrajini pa mogoče ni tako in bi bolj zvita politika prinesla korist njenemu gospodarstvu.
Slovenija je doživela enako in takoj po osamosvojitvi je zaradi mrka nekdanjega enotnega trga crknilo lepo število podjetij. Že pred osamosvojijo se je del SFRJ trga politično zaprl pred slovenskim blagom in verjetno ni bilo neke realne možnosti, da se to ne zgodi. Pri Ukrajini pa mogoče ni tako in bi bolj zvita politika prinesla korist njenemu gospodarstvu.
No sej Ukrajinski problem dobro poznajo baltske države. Njihova bojazen ni iz trte zvita, še man pa paranoična.
Ampak ko nekdo govori o nesposobnosti Ukrajino, medtem pa ne vidi nesposobne Rusije.
Pri obeh je mizerija, če pa gledamo na splošno, pa Ukrajino še zastopim, Rusije pa kot energetske velesile pa težko.
Oligarihično koruptivno enoumje. Je pa značilno za te države, vedno večji show off kot kinderjajček Kim Un.
To je približno to. Mislim, pa da so Ukrajinci dovolj trdoživ narod, saj so pod prijaznimi Rusi doživeli in preživeli marsikaj.
Ampak ko nekdo govori o nesposobnosti Ukrajino, medtem pa ne vidi nesposobne Rusije.
Pri obeh je mizerija, če pa gledamo na splošno, pa Ukrajino še zastopim, Rusije pa kot energetske velesile pa težko.
Oligarihično koruptivno enoumje. Je pa značilno za te države, vedno večji show off kot kinderjajček Kim Un.
To je približno to. Mislim, pa da so Ukrajinci dovolj trdoživ narod, saj so pod prijaznimi Rusi doživeli in preživeli marsikaj.
Porošenkov poziv Natu: Pošljite ladje v Azovsko morje
http://www.rtvslo.si/svet/evropa/porosenkov-poziv-natu-posljite-ladje-v-azovsko-morje/473255
Say what? Ukraine to demand Turkey shuts Bosphorus to Russian ships over Kerch incident
https://www.rt.com/news/445155-ukraine-ban-russian-ships-bosphorus/
http://www.rtvslo.si/svet/evropa/porosenkov-poziv-natu-posljite-ladje-v-azovsko-morje/473255
Say what? Ukraine to demand Turkey shuts Bosphorus to Russian ships over Kerch incident
https://www.rt.com/news/445155-ukraine-ban-russian-ships-bosphorus/
Ne nakladaj. Toliko je skorumpirano kot rusko. Zakaj ima Putin milijarde ruskega denarja na svojem računu v tujini?
Ti si vprašal itak ruske petokolonaše. Ukrajinci nočejo nazaj .
Podatki niso ravno najnovejši ampak ok....
The current crisis between Ukraine and Russia can be identified as a systemic crisis of the basic models which can be Ukrainian statehood after the Soviet Union and the post-unipolar world. There are numerous causes of this crisis, which clearly has political, economic, social, and cultural dimensions to it and clearly three main conflict parties. As it was mentioned above, the country has been divided more or less evenly between Ukrainians who would want to see Ukraine as part of Europe and those who would want to see it as intrinsically linked to Russia.
A poll released on 5 November 2009 showed that about 67% of Ukrainians believed the relationship with Russia should be a friendship between "two independent states".[186] According to a 2012 poll by the Kyiv International Institute of Sociology (KIIS), 72% of Ukrainians preferred Ukraine and Russia as independent but friendly states with open borders without visas or customs; the number of unification supporters shrunk by 2% to 14% in Ukraine.[195]
In December 2014, 85% of Ukrainians (81% in eastern regions) rated relations with Russia as hostile (56%) or tense (29%), according to a Deutsche Welle survey which did not include Crimea and the separatist-controlled part of Donbass.[203] Gallup reported that 5% of Ukrainians (12% in the south and east) approved of the Russian leadership in a September–October 2014 survey, down from 43% (57% in the south and east) a year earlier.[204]
In September 2014, a survey by Alexei Navalny of the mainly Russophone cities of Odessa and Kharkiv found that 87% of residents wanted their region to stay in Ukraine, 3% wanted to join Russia, 2% wanted to join "Novorossiya," and 8% were undecided.[205] A KIIS poll conducted in December 2014 found 88.3% of Ukrainians were opposed to joining Russia.[206]
Vir: https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Russia–Ukraine_relations
The current crisis between Ukraine and Russia can be identified as a systemic crisis of the basic models which can be Ukrainian statehood after the Soviet Union and the post-unipolar world. There are numerous causes of this crisis, which clearly has political, economic, social, and cultural dimensions to it and clearly three main conflict parties. As it was mentioned above, the country has been divided more or less evenly between Ukrainians who would want to see Ukraine as part of Europe and those who would want to see it as intrinsically linked to Russia.
A poll released on 5 November 2009 showed that about 67% of Ukrainians believed the relationship with Russia should be a friendship between "two independent states".[186] According to a 2012 poll by the Kyiv International Institute of Sociology (KIIS), 72% of Ukrainians preferred Ukraine and Russia as independent but friendly states with open borders without visas or customs; the number of unification supporters shrunk by 2% to 14% in Ukraine.[195]
In December 2014, 85% of Ukrainians (81% in eastern regions) rated relations with Russia as hostile (56%) or tense (29%), according to a Deutsche Welle survey which did not include Crimea and the separatist-controlled part of Donbass.[203] Gallup reported that 5% of Ukrainians (12% in the south and east) approved of the Russian leadership in a September–October 2014 survey, down from 43% (57% in the south and east) a year earlier.[204]
In September 2014, a survey by Alexei Navalny of the mainly Russophone cities of Odessa and Kharkiv found that 87% of residents wanted their region to stay in Ukraine, 3% wanted to join Russia, 2% wanted to join "Novorossiya," and 8% were undecided.[205] A KIIS poll conducted in December 2014 found 88.3% of Ukrainians were opposed to joining Russia.[206]
Vir: https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Russia–Ukraine_relations